Culture Clips: Justin & Hailey Talk Abstinence & Marriage

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Justin Bieber has headlined Culture Clips (and other Plugged In blogs and articles) many times in the last decade. His wildly zigzagging trajectory has often ricocheted between affirmations of faith and reckless behavior.

The 24-year-old singer married model and TV presenter Hailey Baldwin last July. And the couple recently sat down for an interview with Vogue to talk about their marriage and important lessons they’ve learned.

Justin admitted he’s had “a legitimate problem with sex” in the past—so much so that Vogue writer Rob Haskell reports, “When the couple reconnected last June, Justin was more than a year into a self-imposed tenure of celibacy.” In that time, Justin said he’d grown closer to God and grown in his understanding of God’s intent for sex.

He doesn’t ask us not to have sex for him because he wants rules and stuff. … He’s like, I’m trying to protect you from hurt and pain. I think sex can cause a lot of pain. Sometimes people have sex because they don’t feel good enough. Because they lack self-worth. Women do that, and guys do that. I wanted to rededicate myself to God in that way because I really felt it was better for the condition of my soul. And I believe that God blessed me with Hailey as a result.

Later, Hailey talked about the reality of marriage:

I’m not going to sit here and lie and say it’s all a magical fantasy. It’s always going to be hard. It’s a choice. You don’t feel it every single day. You don’t wake up every day saying, “I’m absolutely so in love and you are perfect.” That’s not what being married is. But there’s something beautiful about it anyway—about wanting to fight for something, commit to building with someone.

Another celebrity who’s talked a lot about his faith lately is Chris Pratt. On Feb. 7, he appeared on The Late Show, where Stephen Colbert asked him if fame ever felt like being in the “lion’s den.” Pratt responded with a quote from evangelist and author Christine Caine: “There’s this great quote, that I actually heard in church, which was, ‘If the spotlight that is shining on you is brighter than the light that comes from within you, it’ll kill you.'”

Colbert liked that quote. But not everyone is happy with Pratt’s expressions of faith these days. Actress Ellen Page took him to task on Twitter for attending a congregation (Hillsong Church) that doesn’t affirm homosexuality. Page wrote, “Oh. K. Um. But his church is infamously anti lgbtq so maybe address that too?” Pratt responded on Instagram, “It has recently been suggested that I belong to a church which ‘hates people’ and is ‘infamously anti-LGBTQ.’ Nothing could be further from the truth. I go to a church that opens their doors to absolutely everyone.” He also added:

My church is important to me but no church defines me or my life. I am not a spokesperson for any group of people. My values define who I am. We need less hate in this world, not more. I am a man who believes that everyone is entitled to love who they want free from the judgment of fellow man.

Commenting on that story, The Federalist’s Nathanael Blake says it’s unclear whether “Pratt agrees with those doctrines (his response suggests he does not or is at least wishy-washy).” But Blake emphasizes the bottom line for believers in the entertainment industry:

Nonetheless, [Pratt’s] attendance at a church that upholds Christian teaching was reason enough for people to condemn him on the grounds that Christianity is bigotry. Welcome to Hollywood today: are you now or have you ever been a member of an orthodox Christian congregation?

Elsewhere this week, there’s been quite a bit of news lately scolding tech companies for snooping on their customer’s data. A Feb. 6 article from techcrunch.com warned, “Many Popular iPhone Apps Secretly Record Your Screen Without Asking” That prompted a sharp response from Apple, which basically told iPhone app developers to knock it off or risk being banned.

But if you think a bit of tsk-tsking from Apple is likely to change how companies aggressively collect and monetize your data, think again. Many seemingly innocuous things users do with their phones—such as using Google Maps, for instance, something that 67% of smartphone users do—give tech companies crucial data they use to predict many things about you, your location, your relationships and your behavior.

Still, even if we’re vaguely uneasy about the prospect of such ongoing digital surveillance, breaking up with tech that’s become so enmeshed in our lives these days is easier said than done.

Finally, Instagram head Adam Mosseri announced that his company’s popular social media app is, according to CNBC’s Katie Brigham, “implementing changes that it hopes will stop younger users from being exposed to inappropriate content relating to suicide and self harm.”

Specifically, Instagram will begin using “sensitivity screens” that require users to opt in before seeing images of self-harm (such as cutting, for instance) on the social media platform. In an op-ed in The Telegraph, Mosseri said he felt compelled to make the changes after hearing the story of a 14-year-old British girl who took her life after she followed multiple suicide and self-harm accounts on Instagram.

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Anonymous 9 months ago
In reference to Justin B's comments. A year of celibacy? We should ask 'Rosie' if that's true. What an idol, don't hear anything about his military commitment to his country. Nothing more than a coward living in our great country where men and women his age and younger have given the ultimate sacrifice. Far as I'm concerned he should be on the other side of Trump's wall.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I know I've quoted Carman before, but we really do need God in America again.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Correction: Cartman
-David the Clown
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Nice.

-Evan
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Lol. And I don't even watch South Park
-David the Clown
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Carman's way too much of a Christian to appear on such a secular show as South Park.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
In my opinion every gay person out there should stop sinning, embrace heterosexuality as God intended, and learn to live in a loving monogamous relationship with someone who isn't your same gender. If every gay person turned from their evil ways and became heterosexual instead then the world would definitely be a better place.
Rocketshipper More than 1 year ago
Just want to add two cents in since I saw a comment below using the terminology "being gay".

"Having gay s-x" or "indulging in lust through illicit material" are sins, and Christians should speak out against those things, and attempt to help people leave them behind.

"experiencing emotional or physical attraction to someone of the same s-x" is NOT a sin, it is a temptation, and does not become a sin unless acted on.    

I would hope Christians can all recognize and acknowledge that.  I think the Church has in the past (and maybe continues to now) been very very bad at separating those two things.   Individuals who have experienced SSA (same s-x attraction) end up feeling like they are already condemned just for having the feelings, even when they have not acted on them, are not actively dating or having s-x with someone of their own gender.    And we should not be expecting this super high bar of achievement from people that being free of a "gay lifestyle" means that a person will never have any same s-x feelings again for the rest of their life, because it is probably not realistic.  Temptation will probably always be there.   Many of these tragic instances of people trying to "cure" their homos-xuality and failing, ultimately either embracing the behavior or falling into depression or suicide, could be linked to unrealistic expectations;  they are trying to get rid of *feelings* and unconscious bodily responses to stimuli that may never be changeable.  I don't think the church should have ever emphasized trying to change feelings, expecting these individuals to "cure" their s-xual temptation, but should emphasize what it means to live purely.   God expects the *exact same thing* from a single straight person that he does from a single person who has SSA; to live purely outside of marriage.    The advice we give a person struggling with SSA temptation should be the same advice we give to every non-married single person. 
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Agree with you 100%
-David the Clown
Alexander Dixon More than 1 year ago
Romans 9 - God created vassals of wrath and vassals of mercy.  He blinds those who are the vassals of wrath.  One example of being blind is to believe that LGBTQ and etc is a good thing.  It is an abomination before the Lord (Jesus).  An abomination is equivalent to a stinking smell, like poop.
Amy Blickensderfer More than 1 year ago
God is alone.  God creates the devil because he doesn't want to play 7,000,000 dimensional chess against himself.  God creates gay people.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

Um, God actually created Lucifer, who was one of God’s angels. Lucifer was jealous of God, and God kicked him out because Lucifer thought he was better than God.

And I personally don’t think God created gay people. God designed marriage to be shared for a man and a woman, but when mankind fell to sin, we became imperfect, preventing us from entering Heaven by ourselves.
Amy Blickensderfer More than 1 year ago
not that i'm blaming him or anything. i think it's beautiful
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

The serpent planted a seed of doubt in Adam and Eve, and they decided to believe what the serpent said instead of listening to God’s command.

I can’t point a finger at Adam and Eve for sinning frankly because if I were in the same situation (and I have been, multiple times), I’d do the same thing. We’re all sinful, deserving to be cast into the furnace if you will, and it’s only by God’s grace that we can be forgiven.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Yay! More Debates, more comments, and a new record-breaking possibility! 

I also agree with @First Comment Guy'

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Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Here here!
-David the Clown
Amy Blickensderfer More than 1 year ago
i love all you people. best comment section ever
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
For a Christian forum everyone seems to love and tolerate gay people way too much around here. It makes zero sense to me. Guess everyone on here is a bunch of liberals, and I'm the only conservative one. What's next loving abortionists?
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Well, yeah. This is after all a Christian forum, and Christians are commanded to love everyone, even their enemies.

"And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."
 -- Ephesians 4:32

-- The Kenosha Kid
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
And here we go again.....

No one here is saying that homosexuality isn't a sin. It is blatantly and explicitly stated in the Bible as such. 
But the Bible also says that we are to be gracious and loving to unbelievers, on account that we too were destined for eternal damnation. And the only reason that we are saved, and do not have the fate of not only homosexuals, but also adulterers, liars, thieves, murders etc.... is because of our faith and trust in Jesus.
I love gay people in the same way I might love any other unbeliever.
-David the Clown

And for the record, I myself am very Conservative, and I wrote quite a long post about the Left and the LGBT community on here. But it got deleted for some reason 
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

You say everyone here is a liberal, and yet I’m the one who made all those memes about Jake Roberson defending Gillette’s ad.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I honestly have no idea who Jake Roberson is.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
And so begins the next arc of my favorite anime: PluggedIn Comment Section Z! ;)

-Evan
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
This is gonna be great!
-David the Clown
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

The level of tension in the comment section:

IT’S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Churches should be against homosexuality. I thought that was a given. But apparently being tolerant of gay people is all the norm now, and that's what's really sickening. I weep for the world. I truly do.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
And I'm sorry but even the bible says doing sins against the flesh is the worst you can do, and if engaging in homosexual activity isn't sinning against the flesh then I don't know what is.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

I don’t like homosexuality either, but if I’m given the opportunity to help someone out of their sin, I’ll take it.

We have to show people God’s design for marriage, and help them to understand that His plan is perfect as flawless.

Personally, I’d rather overcome evil with good than with evil.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

It's funny how Ellen Page condemns Chris Pratt and his church for how anti LGBT they may be, and yet she doesn't condemn Islamists and their mosques for how anti LGBT they are.

Hey, Christians may disagree with the LGBT community, but at least we don't want to kill them.
Chuck Anziulewicz More than 1 year ago
I can very easily condemn Islamists and their mosques for how anti-LGBT they are. I think most people can. But there's not much we can do about it, since it's invariably in the Middle East.

In the United States, on the other hand, Muslim Americans have been shown to be much more charitable toward LGBT people than evangelical Christians. You may not wish to kill us, but you certainly don't think we are deserving of civil rights protections or the right to marry the person we love.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
It really depends on who you talk to. I myself have no problem with gay marriage being legal, even though I have moral issues with it. And that is true for a lot of things. For example; I also think that getting drunk is a sin as dictated by the Bible. But, as long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be legal. 
People seem to equate "disagreement" with "hatred" which is simply not the case. Are there truly bigoted Christians? Yes, of course there is,but that is true for any people group.

Now it is also true that American Muslims are much more modern then their Middle Eastern counterparts. But it is not true that the radical sect of Islam is exclusively in the Middle East. There has been a massive influx of Middle Easter Muslims into Europe. Many of whom are in support of Sharia Law.
The difference between Christianity and Islam is that one is strictly a religion, and the other is both a religion and a legal system. The latter being Islam. Islam's end goal is to establish a theocracy, which, as seen played out in places like the Middle East and Pakistan, is oftentimes very tyrannical. 

-David the Clown
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

I don't agree with the LGBT community, but I don't hate them. And it makes me genuinely sad when I see Christians who do hate LGBT members. Christians ought to be more like Jesus, not like the Pharisees. Jesus hated the sin, not the sinner, and I wish more Christians would emulate that lifestyle. We should help others out of their sin, not condemn them for how sinful they are.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I completely agree @(contested)First_Comment_Guy
-David the Clown
Lyn Chartowich More than 1 year ago
First Comment Guy, you worded it perfectly.
No one should hate someone because of their sin. If that were true, we'd all hate everyone. All humans, not including Jesus of course, has sinned and continues to sin every day.
The reason LGBT issues have become so big is because those who support/do it are so public about it, taking pride in doing something that used to be (in the world's eyes) wrong and now is (again, in the world's eyes) right. People applaud them for their courage and those who stand against it, those who know God's truth, are told that they are wrong, but, more importantly, they're mean, they're hating.
But LGBT sin is just as bad as lying or stealing or any other sexual sin. All sin is equal, equal as in all sin leads to eternal death (Romans 8:13, James 1:15). Yet LGBT controversy has become so, well, controversial, so many divide people into LGBT supporters or LGBT opponents. Hate has become a much-used word in modern language, and it continues to do so. But I pray that some day, people on both...sides, if you will, will notice what they're doing wrong and repent.
We live in such a broken world, and only Jesus can fix it again.

Sorry if I've been rambling, but that's just my take on the subject. 
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Posted by First Comment Guy

 @Lyn Chartowich 
It's not rambling if you're speaking the truth. :)
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Hopefully, we can avoid a repeat of the PG-13 Deadpool thread...
-David the Clown
Lyn Chartowich More than 1 year ago
Thanks, First Comment Guy. And also, lol, I'm not Lyn Chartowich, that's my mom. I'm just shy of legally being able to have my own email, so I use hers.
David the Clown, I did not see that thread until just now, I guess it's a common topic!
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
 @Lyn Chartowich 

Hahaha. (may or may not have put in a false B-Day for mine. I can legally have one now, but back then, nope. Am I the only one puts my age as 21 when it's not?

The Non-Mouse
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
@The-non-mouse

No.....never (*wink wink*)
-David the Clown